A Podcast by Amber & Arly

The Affair
That Saved Us

We survived an affair. This is how.

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Our Story

We had everything.
Then we didn't.

In May 2016, she discovered her husband of almost 21 years was having an affair. They had three kids, a home, a life, and a faith they thought they understood. All of it cracked open overnight.

He lost a 25-year career. They went to a lot of therapy. And somewhere in that process, not quickly, not easily, something shifted. What happened didn't just change their marriage. It changed everything about who they are.

He became a licensed therapist. She became someone who could say, without flinching, that the hardest thing she ever survived was also the thing that set her free.

They're Amber and Arly. And this is their podcast.

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Amber and Arly
The Unfaithful Partner

Arly
Smart

A chef for 25 years. Then an affair. Then the hardest work of his life. Today he's a licensed therapist, spending every day sitting with people in the exact kind of pain he once caused.

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The Betrayed Partner

Amber
Smart

The woman who found out. The woman who stayed. Ten years on, she's still working out what all of it means, and doing it out loud, for every person sitting alone with this in the middle of the night.

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